Geoff, you may be right. When me and Steve Rose took the Rifle Jeans car to the Bolognia Motor show there was a stand in the main hall with two blown hemi slingshots side by side.Both were painted in awful gary colours and had strobe lights flashing inside the zoomie pipes. You could see they were proper race cars and had seen better days and we wondered where they came from. If one was the Wynns Winder then what was the other one ?? this was early december 1980.